• 8 AUGUST, A HISTORIC DAY IN DRs STRUGGLE

    8th August, a historic day for AIGETOA.

    Just look behind one year, We all remember this day as a sign of unity among direct recruits irrespective of cast, creed and batches. Many would ask what did we achieve out of this unity? Friends, protest and agitation is not to achieve result on the floor of agitation but it just to show our commitment and highlight the genuineness of our demands. Success of any agitation and protest is not measured in terms of immediate outcome on the floor but it is measured in terms of participation of members, showing our unity, highlighting the genuineness of demands and pushing the demands upwards in the priority of resolution.

    No one can deny that this association had been able to achieve all these things with all of your support. Top management of BSNL including boards of director have first time realized not only the genuineness of our issues but also the importance of direct recruits for survival of BSNL. Struggle is continues process till the achievement of justice and we will keep it on in one or other form. Once again, congratulation to all of you for making this day as sign of unity among direct recruits in BSNL and showing our commitment and struggle against injustice

  • DoPT Case : Facts We Should Know

    DoPT Case Facts to Think About
    1. The case is fought by 6 leading advocates for Promotees and 1 advocate for Direct Recruits but still promotees couldn’t get a favorable order. With so much resources why cant they get a favourable order if not for Justice being on the side of DRs?
    2. The Court ordered BSNL to submit All India Eligibility list following DoPT guidelines before any further promotions to SDE, to which BSNL has not responded for the past one year under pressure from Promotees. What are they hiding ?
    3. The main argument of Promotees is that the delay caused by the Case would do permenant damage to JTOs nearing retirement, while at the same time they force managment from submitting Eligibility list in Court ,which in turn is the real reason for the delay in promotions. Why the double standards ?

    Department of Personnel and Training (DoPT) is the department of the Central Government bestowed with the authority to issue guidelines which control the Promotion and Training rules of PSUs under Central Government Control.

    According to DoPT guidelines in any Cadre in a PSU where there is appointment through two streams ie via Direct Recruitment and via Promotion , the relative seniority should be done keeping a ratio of 1:1 for Direct Recruits and Promotees.

     

    When the 2008-2009 and 2009-2010 Provisional Gradation list were published, the First BSNL Direct Recruited official was placed at around 7000 ! while DoPT would have positioned him at 2nd Position !!. The Final Gradation List was never prepared or circulated, which itself is a big violation of DoPT/Natural Justice.

    DRs decided act against this injustice & at Chennai they filed a Case in the Hon Chennai CAT under AIGETOA banner. In the mean time, A roster case ( for reservation roster ) was also made in Hon Chennai CAT for the list 2008-09 ; and both these cases made the Wrong Gradation list of 2008-09 & 2009-10 inoperative .

    The DoPT case after remaining in Court for almost 2 year was dismissed on the following technical grounds.

    1) The DR JTOs hadn’t first given a representation to the Management.

    2) The DR JTOs had challenged the Chennai Circle gradation list.

    3) They had ‘slept over their rights’ for a long time as the irregularity had happened as early as 2000 but they had gone for the case only by about 2009

     

    Immediately after the re-publishing of 2009-10 Gradation List ; some of our Colleagues in Kerala who were in the list had immediately given representation to Management (Director HR) siting the injustice that was done to Direct Recruits by the management by not following the DoPT Guidelines and the Procedure followed by BSNL. Having not received any response from the Management in the prescribed time they immediately without delay filed a Case in the Hon Ernakulam CAT & challenged the 2009-10 list also.

    BSNL had not appeared in several of the hearings. Consequent to the legal proceedings On 18.04.2013 the Hon Ernakulam CAT had directed the BSNL Management to prepare a list based on DoPT Guidelines & legeal orders which they hadn’t been able to do till date. It was also directed not to make any promotions from the challenged list without the Hon court’s consent.

    Now one of the associations – which claims to take care of the interests of both Promotees and Direct Recruits equally well – is moving fast to get the stay vacated to see their priority members (PROMOTEES) posted as SDEs to those Seniority Vacancies at the earliest, which should have been rightfully shared between Direct Recruits and Promotees equally (ie 1:1). 

    Wake up friends, The time to act is NOW. The point is not to take all this injustice sitting idle. We have to Stand up and fight for what is rightfully ours.( From aigetoa kerala)

     

  • Negative attitude of some of associations started against DRs Unity.

     Dear friends

    Who are well wishers and need Explanation, who trying hard to resolve issues in totality

    .GS R.P .Shahu  Message to all DRs read Why AIGETOA

    • Why AIGETOA :  Click here for GS Message

    • Who can fill this membership form: All DR executives recruited after inception of BSNL i.e. Oct-2000.

    • Subscription fee to be paid: Pay subscription of Rs 800/- (From Aug-14 to March-15) Directly to AIGETOACHQ account or Rs 100/- per month to your Circle/District account through salary/ECS before filling this form.

    • Last date: 20th Aug 2014 after this date additional amount of Rs 500/- (one time) will have to pay as membership fee.

     

     

  • Message from General Secretary.Why AIGETOA

    Dear Direct Recruits Executives of BSNL,

    All of you are well aware of the mission and vision of your association i.e. AIGETOA. Still it is felt that there are some questions in the mind of general members. The foremost question amongst them is that “what are the achievements for direct recruits so far through this platform”? This question was doing the rounds in my mind also for quite some time. Let us try to find the answer for the same.

    This association was formed in Nov-2005 with some visionary directs recruits amongst us with the vision and mission to represent the issues of direct recruits as our service conditions were very different from majority of the executives in various aspects. Whether and to what extent have we been successful? Just go through the facts mentioned herein and you will find your own answers.

    1. First achievement of AIGETOA was the stipend arrear of about Rs 14000 against revised IDA pay scale which all the 2001 and 2002 batch colleagues were paid. This was very meager amount as far as the volume is concerned but other association were not even aware about this issue due to lack of concern as their basic members were not benefitted out of it.

    2. Second achievement was the EPF contribution on full Basic+DA and resolution of various EPF anomalies for all direct recruits. Despite of clear order, most of the field units had restricted the EPF contribution on Rs 6500/- and that too with several anomalies. This issue had been raised by some individual direct recruits on the platform of other associations but was remain unaddressed. AIGETOA gave a platform to raise this issue collectively and finally most of the issues have been resolved. Most of the anomalies in maintaining EPF account are also resolved. This is the greatest achievement of this association else our social and future security was in danger. We are very much sure that we shall be able to resolve the remaining anomalies also with your support.

    3. Third achievement was 30% fitment to 2005 batch colleague. We do agree that there had been several efforts from other fronts also but initiation and raising the issue up to the level from where issue gets resolved was only possible due to existence of this association. If you go through the documents pertaining to the resolution of these issues, you will get the answer that AIGETOA was the root cause of getting this issue resolved.

    4. Retention of unjustified transfer in LDCE-2007 and conduction of LDCE-2014, bonus marks against wrong answers, declaration of result, overnight posting and retention of most of the candidates against unjustified transfer was only possible due to the existence of AIGETOA.

    5. About 1600 LDCE vacancies were diverted from LDCE quota to seniority quota which was restored only because of AIGETOA.

    6. Stopping of external MT till date and appearing in DGM exam to show our talent was only possible due to existence of this association. If external MT would have come, we would have lost our status of direct recruit executives.

    7. Management had made all the preparations for reverting some of our colleagues who got promoted citing court cases and judgments but it was the efforts of AIGETOA only which prevented management from doing this. There are various other achievement of AIGETOA which cannot be ignored like, execution of Rule-8 transfer, E1+5 as an interim benefits etc.

    8. 30% superannuation benefit, Pay parity, E2/E3 pay scale for JTO/SDE equivalent, CPSE cadre hierarchy, uniform time bound upgradation in four years etc. are some of the issue which we could not be achieved so far but these issues have already been raised by this association up to an extent from where achievement is the only destination. We do agree that resolution of these issues have taken time beyond our expectation but Come what way nobody can stop us before reaching to destination of resolution. We are fully committed to resolve these issues and we will leave no stone unturned for the same.

    9. The biggest achievement of AIGETOA is that it made us aware of our dues, our rights, our facilities. It was the deep study by our group which apprised each and every member about the injustices that are being met out to the Direct Recruits. It is the achievement of AIGETOA to prevent the management and other groups from making the direct recruits as sacrificial lambs. It is the achievement of AIGETOA that nobody dares to touch us. It is the achievement of AIGETOA that policies are being framed keeping DRs in mind. It is the achievement of AIGETOA that even other associations considers us as their most important assets.

    10. Last but not least, AIGETOA has given you the platform where we all qualified executives unite together and serve the nation maintaining self dignity and pride.

    Some individual and other associations may propagate about their role in achieving the aforementioned resolutions. Some even go the extent of claiming that they got the issue resolved over telephone and we don’t have any problems also when people are ready to buy this agreement. We do appreciate their role and support also but just think without the existence of AIGETOA was it possible? Absolutely not ! Many efforts might have worked in getting resolution of the above mentioned issues but center of all the efforts is AIGETOA. AIGETOA doesn’t believe in highlighting the efforts as individual but the fact is that whatever happens and issues are resolved because of the collective efforts of all of us, because of support of members from ground level. If our leaders are recognized, it’s because of your support otherwise the leaders are also JTOs, SDEs etc. This is the platform where some dedicated and committed members study issues, collect the data, share among each other and finally get all the justification so that efforts starts working. This is our misfortune that we are working in company where only we belong to a different category of executives and our benefits are different from other executives belonging to management cadre else most of the issues would have never created. Resolution of some of the foremost issues get delayed despite of having all the genuineness and justification, the reason behind it, is only and only that we are not consistent and have never acted all together. Personal issues and egos of some persons have also played a part in creating hurdles on the way of achievement.

    Dear direct recruit colleagues, you just decide how long we shall fight individually, in small groups, event and issue selected participation etc. when our vision and mission are same. Let us come together all at a time and give strength to your own association so that ice can be broken. It is justified to show your anger to any individual leaders of AIGETOA but it is highly unjustified to show anger with your own association. Remove the leaders who are using this association to satisfy their vested interest and personal aspiration but don’t finish this platform which is meant for your welfare.

    This association while maintaining its identity, has decided to jointly fight for the issues of executives. Let us come together and show the power of unity so that we can be identified as king makers. Some of our issues are different than basic membership of AIBSNLEA but they are not contradictory, hence we have come together. If AIBSNLEA wins the forthcoming referendum process and became the largest executives association in BSNL, it will certainly give additional strength to AIGETOA.

    SURVIVAL OF ANY ASSOCIATION IS POSSIBLE ONLY WITH RESPONSIBLE LEADERSHIP, COMMITTED MEMBERSHIP AND THEIR REGULAR SUBSCRIPTION. LET US START WITH SOME BASIC WORK OF ASSOCIATION TO BUILD THE SYSTEM SO THAT WE CAN WORK EFFICIENTLY. 

  • AIGETOA salutes our ACS Shri Prashant Gaurav, (Bangalore NOC)

    AIGETOA salutes our five comrades who were on hunger fast in the month of Feb-2014 and put their life on risk for common cause. These five comrades are.

    1. Sh R P Shahu, General Secretary AIGETOA

    2. Sh Ajay Kaswan, Ex Circle Secretary Punjab

    3. Sh Abhishek Jain, AGS, (Rajasthan)

    4. Sh Prashant Gaurav, (Bangalore NOC)

    5. Sh Sanjeev Kumar, Circle Body Member, New Delhi Circle

    Association has decided to honor all of them in our upcoming AGM to be held at Hyderabad on 22nd and 23rd Aug-2014. Comrades you all are cordially invited to attend the AGM. We all are proud of you.

  • CO-ORDINATION COMMITTE formed at BIJAPUR SSA

    Dear Friends
    As per the CHQs/CIRCLE instructions of AIGETOA & AIBSNLEA district body members, meet the both the association member at Conference Hall GMTD on 06.08.2014 at 05:45 p.m.
    from AIGETOA side 14 members attended ,11 members from AIBSNLEA total of 25 members. 
    The meeting was very cordial and encouraging, discussed about revival of BSNL and role of both the associations. and co-ordination committee is formed both association agreed to work together coming days.
     
         AIGETOA side                                          AIBSLNEA side
    1.SUNIL KUMAR .V     D.P                      1.Y.S.HEGDE     D.P
    2.VIVEKANANDA.D. NAIK  D.S           2.M.B.KULKARNI  D.S
    3.AJAY KUMAR.P Fin.Sec                      3.M.H.MASALI  Fin Sec
  • Bangalore SSA District executive Committee meeting. Friday

    Dear Friends

    Please begin assembling at NTB by 12:45hrs. All district body members should attend. Branch bodies/members are also welcome. Circle representatives in Bangalore will be present to update progress on various issues.

    Venue:- Conference Hall, NTB
    Date and time:- 8th August 2014, 13:00hrs to 14:00hrs

    Meeting agenda:-
    1.Membership registration on CHQ website status.
    2.Upcoming referendum  coordination  with AIBSNLEA
    3.Progress achieved at the Circle level
    4.Issues of Bangalore TD to be highlighted to the new PGM.

    5.Bangalore SSA District conference date and Venue finalization.

    Please note that this is the last meeting of the current district body, whose term is expiring this month on the completion of 3 years (28.08.2014). Elections are scheduled in the 1st/2nd week of September. Active participation of all Direct recruits members is solicited.

  • AIGETOA online as well as offline form submit it to DS/DP/CS/CP

    Dear ALL,
    Please fill the online membership as well as offline form submit it to DS/DP/CS/CP, Please treat it most important.complete today only.

  • What is our loss as DR GEJTO IN BSNL SOFT REMINDER

    Just to remind…..what are our basic rights? what are we  deprived of? What are we loosing?…….

      We deprived of 

    Eye Opener : Detail analysis of issues. Why did AIGETOA had done Strike/Dharana  Why the management did not take any action until now.What are achievements After AIGETOA Dharna how management and others wake up.

    Motivation for performing the so called dharana has come into the minds of other association only after witnessing our Historic struggle in Jantar Mantar, that to thrice (2008, 2013 and 2014). Who is doing drama in the name of association has unearthed with the recent drama in the name of mere transfer-posting, thereby causing an irreversible loss to BSNL. We are not mere an association just for transfer and postings!  We are association of truth and transparency. We are the only association who is concerned for the future of DR executive, and with our recent endeavor to support AIBSNLEA in referendum has proved that we are even bothered for other executives. It seems that witnessing the togetherness of experience with enthusiasm and adolescence has kept others stranded, and now they have nothing left to show. In times to come it will be certified that who is the one! Really worried for Executives of BSNL and in turn BSNL and Who has just crocodile tears!

    Pointing out fingers on others is not the work of AIGETOA Karnataka, we are much dedicated to work for DRs and in turn working for betterment of BSNL.

    We must understand truth. GS Writen a letter to CMD agenda points.

    Just to remind…..what are our basic rights? what are we  deprived of? What are loosing?…….

     Standard Pay Scale:

    Basic Right : We are induced in BSNL in the name of GE JTOs as per Enginnering Trainees induced in the PSUs in 2001. As per DPE( who is authority to decide pay scales of executives in PSUs) direct engineering trainees in Shedule A PSUs should be induced at E2/E3. Remember we are executives and our salary should be decided by DPE and not by the Management of BSNL. Management has to follow the guidelines of DPE.

     We deprived of : But for the sake of ensuring pension to absorbed non engineering peoples, pay scale of JTOs is fixed at intermediate pay scale of E1A in negotiation with so called strong associations at the time of formation of BSNL  though BSNL was earning thousands of crore profit at that time. Might be being new to PSUs or lack of knowledge of ruling, the leaders of these associations signed MOU with management. So we deprived of status of an engineering trainee and salary we deserved for the sake of ensuring others pensions. So we have to think because of whom  our basic rights are un resloved till date .

     We  are loosing:

    All absorbed  DOT JTOs : No loss

    2001 & 2002 batch : Nearly bearing loss of more than 15 lakhs since 2002.

    2005 batch : Loss of nearly 10 Lakhs

    2007 & 2008 batch : These batch bearing negative salary getting only 5 increments to compensate which is far less than they deserve. Loss of 1-2 lakhs per year.

    2011 SRD batch : fixed in E1 scale and even not getting 5 increments as compensation. What can say about loss?

     “If we got standard pay scales earlier, might be most of we are free of our various loans like home loans and can save much money for future and may free of  various EMI”

     30 % Superannuation benefit :

    Basic Right : 30 % superannuation is recommendation of 2nd pay revision committee. This point is induced to ensure the good future of employees of PSUs who are not covered by any type of Govt. pension.

    Presently we are getting 18%(12 % EPF+4.5 % Gratuity+1.5 % Medical).

    We are deprived of : 12% of Superannuation we are deprived of. So in turn we deprived of our future.

    We are loosing :

    All Absorbed DOT JTOs : No loss. Covered under CCS pension rule 37A. BSNL is paying  contribution on maximum of basic+DA( 70K to more than 1 lakh per year)

    2001 & 2002 Batch : 6 to 7 thousand per month i.e. 60 to 80 thousand per year i.e. 4.2 to 5.6 lakhs since 2007

    2005 batch : 4 to 5 thosand per month i.e. 50 to 80 thousand per year i.e. 3.5 to 5.6 lakhs since Year  2007

    2007& 2008 : 2.5 to 4 thousand per month i.e. 25 to 50 thousand per year i.e. 1.25 lakhs to 2.5 lakhs since year 2008.

    “ So if we  study present pension plans providing various insurance companies in market today we will get minimum of 1.5 to 2.5 lakhs pension per month after 25 years “ The delay in decision can reduce the pension.

    CPSU Cadre Hierarchy:

    Basic Right : Every PSU has follow its own time bound promotion policy. Employees got functional time bound promotions after fixed interval. BSNL is giving

    1st time bound promotion after 4-6 Years

    2nd time bound promotion after 5 years

    3rd and subsequent after 4 years

    You deprived of :

    Every executive deprived of Time Bound Promotion. They are just getting time bound up gradation in higher pay scale .

    We are loosing :

    All DOT Absorbed JTOs : loosing only functional time bound promotion. Majority of  executives have got TBP in 4 year However batches of 1993 onwards have got TBP in 5 to 6 year as per the norms of touching lowest of  upgraded scale.(No benefit of previous service in DOT extended)

    2001 batch : getting first financial up gradation in 5 to 6 years , thereby loss of 1-2 lakhs . Also not get eligible for DGM recruitment as not touched E4 scale.

    2002 & onward batch :getting first up gradation in 4 years but will not eligible for DGM recruitment up to 14-15 years.

    So Dear friends, from above analysis do you think you are getting your basic rights as defined by DPE for PSU executives. When nearly 2.25 lakhs of employees are getting everything why only 25 thousand BSNL recruit employees are kept away from their basic rights in the name of financial loss. Still BSNL is schedule A PSU and it can afford all our legitimate right. Is management playing with our career and future because we are in lesser numbers and can not raise voice?

     Dear friends, though we are less in numbers, we are playing key role in keeping BSNL in competition in Market. If we decide we can do anything. The need is to understand our strength and get united. As the time passing our career prospects and our future benefits are shading away. We can not wait now. Don’t keep your issues on platforms who are responsible for all these situations because loss of vision and capabilities. We are not peoples who will celebrate by gaining minute benefits like soaps and towels. We want our basic rights. If we get united no one can stop us.

  • CIRCLE COORDINATION COMMITTEE OF AIGETOA & AIBSNLEA Held at Circle office.

     

    Dear Friends

    Circle Coordination Committee  Karnataka Circle formed .

    AIGETOA Cicrle body members CP,CS,ACS1,ACS2,Circle office Branch Sec attended.

    AIBSNLEA CP,CS,CFS,ACS,Branch Sec ,CWC member attended..

    AIGETOA and AIBSNLEA Circle body members discussed the circle levels issues  DRs both  associations jointly agreed to take issues with Administration at circle office/branch/SSA level.

    Both associations  at Circle/Branch/SSA Office Bearers visit and address the executives of  Karnataka  to face  referendum of Majority Executives’ Association in BSNL and to short out the problems of the members of AIBSNLEA and AIGETOA jointly.

    All District body members form Co-ordination committee  at SSA level intimate to circle body and administration.

    Karnataka Circle Co-ordination committee is formed with following office bearers of AIBSNLEA and AIGETOA.

    SlNo. NAME OF THE OFFICE BEARER (S/Shri) POST ASSOCIATION MOBLE NO.
    01. M R NAGARAJ CIRCLE PRESIDENT AIBSNLEA 9449805574
    02. ASHOK Y SHIGLI CIRCLE PRESIDENT AIGETOA 9449857589
    03. H Y ANDELI CIRCLE SECRETARY AIBSNLEA 9448344242
    04. SUNDAR RAJU CIRCLE SECRETARY AIGETOA 9449852001
    05. K R IDLI FINANCESECRETARY AIBSNLEA 9448798498
    06. PRASANT GAURAV ASST.CIRCLE SECRETARY AIGETOA 9483507035
    07. M K BANAGAR CWC MEMBER AIBSNLEA 9449855225
    08. HARISHANKAR TIWARI CWC MEMBER AIGETOA 9449003023

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    Circle office Branch Co-ordination committee is formed with following office bearers of AIBSNLEA and AIGETOA

    SlNo. NAME OF THE OFFICE BEARER (S/Shri) POST ASSOCIATION MOBLE NO.
    01. R KRISHNAPPA DIVISION PRESIDENT AIBSNLEA 9448010702
    02. Ms. DEEPA JAIN DIVISION PRESIDENT AIGETOA  9449850328
    03. BALACHANDRA DAMLE DIVISION SECRETARY AIBSNLEA 9449855594
    04. M PRADEEP KUMAR DIVISION SECRETARY AIGETOA 9449010427
    05. SOLAPUR FINANCESECRETARY AIBSNLEA 9449857886
    06. P J RAKESH FINANCESECRETARY AIGETOA 9449774977
    07. JAYARAM RAO VICE PRESIDENT AIBSNLEA 9449852001
    08. SOURABH AGRAWAL ASST. CS AIGETOA 9448470708

     

    MOU with AIBSNLEA