COME OUT OF “STONE AGE”…MY FRIENDLY ASSOCIATION. COME OUT……WORK FOR THE CADRE NOT FOR EGO:

One of the friendly association…Oh …DR friendly Association…..has been making a lot of Hue and Cry about nothing….They even forgot the basic rule of verifying the facts before writing on their website…despite of differences in opinion. We considered them to be a responsible association… but their recent utterances…are forcing us to think otherwise…

They have mentioned that NTPC is following a policy where an executive is promoted in same grade ….sir that was happening when the DPE order was not issued….after issuance of the DPE order which prohibits a PSU to have multiple grades in Single Scale, NTPC management rectified its promotion policy to fall in line….and now in NTPC when an executive is promoted to next grade,it is always to the next scale and never in same scale…

But opposite is being demanded by our friendly association…instead of seeking amendments of the promotion policy at E9 scale in BSNL where multiple designations are there (Addl GM, GM, Sr. GM, PGM, CGM, etc..) they are demanding for introducing the similar anomaly at E3 level and they call themselves the crusaders of the Executive Cause…This is despite the fact that they are well aware of the fact that DoT has ordered recovery from the executives who have enjoyed increment at promotion in the same scale…citing the same DPE order…the aforesaid order was shown in the meeting and captured in minutes also and it was informed by management side they will not be giving increment in E3 to E3 promotions DPE and DoT orders prohibit it.We honestly fail to understand their motive..why they want to mislead their own members ( DoT recruited executives of 1993, 1994, 1998 etc. batches)…what to say about their concern for DRs. We once again leave it for the executives to verify the facts…

Now with loss of words.. same association is misleading people by telling that AIBSNLEA and AIGETOA wants E2 from 01.10.2000…we once again clarify that we don’t want any deviation from KHAN Committee…we request the friendly association to show one place where KHAN Committee has written that Executives will be in E3 scale for 10 years…

All we are demanding that Khan Committee recommendations be implemented in totalityi.e of replacing E1A to E2, and E2A to E3 be implemented. Nothing needs to be touched in EPP..it takes care of this as it states that first upgradation will be given in 4-6 years and subsequent upgradations in 5 years..where is the need to modify…who is asking to modify. Management is convinced of our submission…then why it is hurting the friendly association…why they are telling that they will not allow Sr. SDE and SDE scales to merge. Why they are saying that if at all merger be there. It should be in Sr. SDE and DE scale…it means they want a non-functional scale to merge with the next higher scale just to satisfy their ego and that the fact that the time period to reach DGM scales for young executives shall be getting reduced by 5 years vis-à-vis those who got E3 before 01.01.2007…where does the same generosity goes..when it comes to the benefit of DRs..why their hearts are burning…and they are calling us selfish people… Now it is for people to understand who is asking for cascading effect and who is acting as Road Blocker…and who is selfish…

Which constraints and which ground realities…they are talking about…. there are no constraints as such…and management is also understanding our point of view. Then why it is hurting the Executive Association…why they are not supporting our view. What loss it is causing to them…its beyond our understanding…actually the only ground reality is the fact that they cannot digest the younger executives reaching the DGM scale five year earlier…if they were so sincere in their approach..why they didn’t disclosed the fact that management has conveyed that the increment with the so called upgradation in E3 to E3 will not be given…what is conspiring behind closed doors…sir….why this sudden change of heart in all matters….why suddenly they want MT….Why they want DGM recruitment….slogans of fresh..…n Young blood…why what happened….whether they also want to say that our blood has become rotten….why what our executives are not capable according to them or what….or they are just trying to infuse negativity and confusion in to the minds of the younger lot….they have named NTPC on their web-site…why they don’t want to emulate NTPC promotion policy….why suddenly they have started echoing the agitation warnings… we request them to stop playing with the careers of thousands and thousands of DRs…we may forgive them….but history will never forgive …

They mention that Juniors reaching E3 scale in 10 to 11 years is a huge motivation… we also agree.. we supported it…but why it bothers them when the same executive gets the E4 scale also five years earlier….why they want the gain achieved in E2 scale to be loss of Five years in E3 scale….why it bothers them when the same Junior gets more motivated…then they start singing the song of merging Sr. SDE and DE scale…it proves our point that all they are interested in keeping the younger lot…in the same situation in which they are ..We want to tell them…Don’t try to befool the younger Lot….sir…act like a big brother…like AIBSNLEA did….remember….our proposal is not causing any loss to seniors….it only benefits the Junior,,,,,but their proposal is causing loss to Juniors as well as Seniors in terms of Financial losses…Career Losses…emotionally….and many such losses which may arise in future and are unforeseen today with next revision…..

They say that senior SDE scale is abolished…then recovery may take place..it shows theirmind set of misleading people…when EPP will not be touched..how come recovery will take place.. All executives will get their upgradation in Five years…what will be recovered…we fail to understand…..they say that Youngsters will lose one assured promotion. WhySo…who is stopping the youngsters to reach E7.E8..E9… or do they also agree that E7 cannot be reached by Group B officers.Do they also believe in that E7 is forte of a particular group…if not then why you’re making people afraid of a non existant fear…we firmly believe that nobody can stop us ( Those who have age on their side) from reaching the positions of Directors and Even CMD…then what stops them from demanding the E7 for upgradations..…Remember that is not cascading effect….they shall be asking only for promotions…what stops them…Management wants to implement just the Khan Committee recommendations. Why they want change in EPP for promotion from E3 to E3…i.e. E3 for 10 years… also to be approved. To stop…whom…can they tell us ….Who is creating problems….in implementation…

We also fail to understand what makes them to write…the words… reversion/demotion of the JTO/JAOs from E1A to E1 and SDE/AOs from E2A to E2 is more demoralising …….arethey planning to be part of any such game plan just to prove their point.

You talk about one promotion for executives. We talk about CPSU hierarchy….we talk of our executives reaching to level of Director/CMD..They want executives to be restricted at Sr SDE grade …..Do they really think that executives are that much fool that they will buy their argument….

We also believe that they have a so called distinguished and chequered history of Fighting for the cadre…then what is the sudden change that they are advocating for something to be implemented in BSNL which has been rejected at other PSUs…their stand on other issues also lets us feel otherwise…but we don’t want to do that…..we want to keep respecting them as they were…    

We request them to become big hearted. We request them to Act like a Big brother…and allow all of us to keep seeing them with respect…it’s our earnest appeal to them…we won’t be coming up any more arguments now…time will be the best judge…as we know and all know what is good and what is bad…we will keep on doing the good work for the executives of BSNL….. 

UF Meeting with CGMT KTK circle and PGM(Admin and HR) KTK circle.  

Shri.Sundar Raju, CS,AIGETOA, Shri.Andeli,CS,AIBSNLEA, Shri.Banagar, ACS, AIBSNLEA had meeting with Shri.Nagaraju,CGMT Karnataka circle and Shri.Venkateswar Rao, PGM(Admin & HR) Karnataka circle in the chamber of CGMT Karnataka on 15.03.2016 and discussed the following points:

SUBJECT : MINUTES OF MEETING ON E2 – E3

BSNL Corporate Office has issued Minutes of the meeting held between Management and the representatives of the Executive Associations. Click here for Minutes of Meeting

A meeting is scheduled to be held under the chairmanship of CMD/Dir (HR) with AIGETOA and AIBSNLEA on Tuesday 8th March 2016 to discuss the pay scale issue and the feasible implementation approach.

Date Posted : 25 February 2016

SUBJECT : UF WRITES TO CMD BSNL

United Forum of Executives Associations comprising of AIGETOA and AIBSNLEA write to Shri Anupam Shrivastava, CMD BSNL regarding most frustrating and de-motivating situation in HR functions of BSNL. Click here for the letter

CS Sundar Raju CS AIGETOA KTK H Y Andeli, CS  had  meeting with PGM(HR/Admn) on 19/02/106

 1) RULE -8 transfers of JTOs:-DR.JTOs have frustrated & de motivated. PGM told that work is under process.  

2) JTOs (Officiating ) promotion as JTO :- Posting ofJTOs(O) who are on deputation, request transfer and posting of JTOs (Oftg) on promotion as JTOs. PGM assures to look into. 

3)Considerationof Request transfers of JTOs who have completed 2 years of Service from one SSA to other SSA(Inra-Circle transfers):-

 PGM informs that we have published pending request transfers of JTOs. Now We have called all SSAs to submit the long standing  list of JTOs. 

4) Holding of DPC for filling up of  JTOs aginst JTOs who completed 5 years of tenure in RTTCMysuru.:- 

5) Intra-Circle deputation/temporary transfers in the cadre of JTOs/SDEs/DETS.:- We have strongly protested for deputation/Temp transfers within Circle. Some JTOs/SDEs will try to get place they wanted through back door entry to join their place by passing waiting list. This will definitely demoralise the officers who were waiting sincerely long time. we have appealed to CGM to restore faith in Circle Admn. By cancelling these orders of Deputation/Temp transfers.

 6) Request transfer of DETs :- 

AIGETOA KTK Circle Executive committee members & Distrait Secretaries had meeting with Circle administration on various issues of DRJTO/SDEs of Karnataka circle.

CS Sundaraju ,CP Ashok.Y shigli,AFS Ajaay kr,DS Raichur Kishore Reddy ,DP Shiafq Mandya,Balagandhi DS Kolar and DRs

I.Meeting with Shri P.Nagraju CGMT and CS Thanked CGMT and Circle administration  for Handling  court case of long standing JTOs transfer case.  

II .Meeting with PGM(HR/Admin) Agenda points.

1.CS Thanked PGM for handeling court case and Reveling of JTOs transferred to other SSA.

2.Rule 8 Transfer and Request Transfer of JTO/SDE : PGM(HR/Admin) assured all the administration work started it will be completed early.

3.Security Refund of JTOs after completion of 5 years of service.

4.Cancellation Temp Deputation JTOs within circle. PGM assured look into it.

5.Shortage of JTO/SDEs at SSA CS requested

 Equal distribution of SDE/JTO to all SSA required.

All DS Give Feedback on number of JTO/SDEs post vacant in your SSA

III.Meeting with AO Anjaneya

 Reg  Security Refund of JTOs after completion not done by Circle: All DRs Secrurity refund will be done after transfering Fund through ATC from other circle.AO Spoken to other circle where Security amount pending.

All DRs those compleeted 5 Yers of service give reprsantation for Refund early.

EPF training period  period : AO assured all work started and He will meet EPF office next week. All SSA gven instruction to complete the process early.

Dear All

The case filed by a section of JTOs  against the long-standing JTO transfer order  issued by Circle Administration last year has been dismissed by honorable court.

Finally, justice has been extended to JTOs who were waited  for transfer to Bangalore from different SSAs of Karnataka for more than 5 years.

We are very much thankful  to Karnataka Circle Administration  for dealing  the case successfully.

We  extend thanks to both the CS AIBSNLEA and CS AIGETOA for their co-operation and for their stand of getting the long standing JTO’s Transfer Order issued last year.

:– MEETING WITH CGM, KTK & PGM(HR/ADMN) :-  Shri.Sundar Raju CS,AIGETOA, KTK and Com Ashok Shigli, Pres. AIGETOA, KTK Com H Y Andeli, CS, Com M K Banagar FS, Com S K Hiremath, ACS(HQ), met CGM,KTK & PGM(HR/Admn) separately and discussed the following:

1) RULE -8 transfers of JTOs:- We strongly protested for not issuing Rule-8 transfers of JTOs. we are fighting this issue to get justice to DR. JTOs for last so many years. This issue was dragged for the one reason or the other. Why Circle Admn is taking this issue very lightly. Now enough is enough. Now Circle Admn should act without delay. Otherwise, Both Associations will go for agitation. And also,  We have demanded for increasing consideration of Rule-8 transfers up to 135. CGM told that now up to 70 cases will be under consideration and orders will be issued as early as possible. After this order Circle will start process for another batch. 

2)Consideration of Request transfers of JTOs who have completed 2 years of Service from one SSA to other SSA(Inra-Circle transfers):-

CGM informs that we have published pending request transfers of JTOs. Now We have called all SSAs to submit the long standing  list of JTOs.

3) Holding of DPC for filling up of  JTOs aginst JTOs who completed 5 years of tenure in RTTC Mysuru.:-

We will conduct DPC as early as possible.4) Modifications of transfer and posting order of Incoming AGMs/DETs to KTK :- We have strongly protested for modification of some AGMs/DETs order. This is clearly indicates that Circle Admn is working under pressure of some corner to please some body after throughing out  transfer policy, rules regulations in vogue. What is the fate of  officers obeyed order? Now, we have demanded to cancel the modified orders immediately and restore faith in Circle Admn. CGM assures to look into.

5) Reliving of JTOs/SDEs/DETS who transferred in the interest of service.:- It is unfortunate, orders issued in the last year were not implemented. CGM informed that the given order list will be implemented.

6) intra-Circle deputation/temporary transfers in the cadre of JTOs/SDEs/DETS.:-

We have strongly protested for deputation/Temp transfers within Circle. Some JTOs/SDEs will try to get place they wanted through back door entry to join their place by passing waiting list. This will definitely demoralise the officers who were waiting sincerely long time. we have appealed to CGM to restore faith in Circle Admn. By cancelling these orders of Deputation/Temp transfers. 

AIGETOA Writes to

• Sr. GM (Pers) for proper followup of the LDCE court cases.Click here for letter 

• Director (HR) in regard to DGM recruitment issue. Click here for letter 

• Director (HR) in regard to the Superannuation Benefits. Click here for letter
  

AIGETOA KTK CS Sundaraju and CP Ashok Y.Shigli attended Genral body meeting  of AIBSNLEA Tumkur SSA.

CS/CP met DRJTO/DRJAOs  of Tumkaur SSA and  discussed the problems faced at SSA and Extended all kind of support from both associations in Tumkur SSA.

Shri  UlhasGurav ACS spoke on financial condition of BSNL, Organisational matters, DPC positions of A&F Executives etc. he appealed all members to strengthen our assn

Shri S K Hiremath ACS(HQ) spoke on strengthening of  BSNL by hard work of each and every staff. GS of AIBSNLEA  is doing excellent job in CHQ by resolving long pending issues and updating day-today’s development of staff 

 Shri Sundar Raju CS AIGETOA spoke that Dr.JTOs are frustrated for not considering Request transfers of JTOs even after 10 to 14 years due to one or the other reason. inthe recent meeting with Admn after two hours  Admn agreed to consider Rule-8 transfers of JTOs up to batch 2005.

Shri H.Y Andeli CS  AIBSNLEA spoke that our only ass is taking care of all cadres likeEngg, Accounts, Stenographers Civil, Electrical, Architect, Rajabhas Adhikaries. Our GS is giving equal treatment to all cadres. Organisational action of UF has not only succeedin stopping MT recruitment but our long pending issues started resolving. In circle level, No circle is ill-treating Dr.JTOs. Other Circles are issuing Rule-8 transfers and intra circle transfers regularly. We strongly protested and after giving ultimate threat to Admn.UF has succeeded in  considering rule-8, request transfers of JTOs which was stopped long back by the Admn. CS told that only UF of AIBSNLEA and AIGETOA can sincerely try and resolve long pending transfer issues of JTOs.

AIBSNLEATumkur  SSA New body formed in the presence of all executives.

1.president Shri  G C Shivashankar AO

2.District Secretary  Shri S Bharath DRJTO(Batch 2009)

3.Finance  Secretary Shri A Sathyappa  JAO

Dear all

In continuation to previous meeting held on 27.01.2016,  Shri.Sundar Raju, CS AIGETOA KTK circle  had meeting with Shri.Venkateshwar Rao,PGM(HR & Admin) KTK circle on 29.01.2016 and discussed regarding relieving of JTOs under  Rule-08 Transfer. Finally PGM told that Karnataka circle will try to clear the waiting list up to the Year 2005 recruitment JTOs.